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Friday, November 5, 2004

Formal declaration of war against Jihadism

We are at war with terrorism, according to vice prime minister Gerrit Zalm (Liberal Party). Finally.

(Our prime minister is the chairman of the European Union at the moment, and he was therefore unavailable for the weekly press conference of the council of ministers.)

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Thank you for the english version! Keep us posted on the details.

Brenda (ip:24.127.79.178) 5 November 2004 - 21:16 uur


      I'll be posting more about this on my blog (in case you didn't notice, that was shameless self-promotion), but one brief comment:

      The Dutch govt. did NOT declare war against Jihadism.

      "War means fighting, and fighting means killing," a quotation attributed to Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest.  Ask yourself: does the Dutch govt. now intends to kill a single human being it did not intend to kill before that declaration was made?  No, it doesn't.

      So you haven't declared war, and you aren't going to fight a war, even though war has been declared against you.  That might be worth thinking about.

Stephen M. St. Onge (ip:63.229.223.131) 5 November 2004 - 0:19 uur


Stephen, we actually have troops in Southern Iraq and Afghanistan (not many, but about the same per capita as Australia) and they tend not to shoot blanks. Also, please refrain from calling for the annihilation of anyone on this website, especially large families. I have removed the last sentence of your message, since it looked like a signature, since it didn't have any relation with the rest of your message, and since the same sentence can be found in about - oh well - quite a few places on your blog, which you are welcome to shamelessly promote. (That's because I don't like the *shameful* kind.)

Arjan (ip:82.161.93.35) 5 November 2004 - 0:41 uur


Good luck to you in the fight. It took eight years, from the first attack on the World Trade Center to the second, for the US to realize we were at war. The Dutch caught on much sooner.

What we're finding out now is that the Islamo-fascists, chiefly those funded by Saudi Arabia, are preaching hatred and jihad in mosques all over the world. They are serving exactly the same purpose as Julius Streicher or Joseph Goebbels. The French have started deporting them, which is the least they deserve. We can keep an eye on them here, but we must consider how to stop them from radicalizing places like Indonesia and Turkey, which have traditions of moderation.

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the Arabs. After Saddam Hussein, I'm sure that the Iraqis will not again allow anyone to have the arbitrary power of life and death over them. They must know that only way to prevent that happening again is to establish the rule of law and respect for individual liberty. They can really make "Iraq the Model" for all the Middle East. If they do, who will listen to the radical preachers? Hmmm, the HTML for the comments section doesn't recognize line breaks or paragraph breaks.

Mitch (ip:68.163.251.174) 5 November 2004 - 2:31 uur


Arjan:
      Thank you for the tact and good manners of your reply to me.  And on behalf of my country, thank you and your country for your support in Afghanistan and Iraq.


      Alas, I disagree with your position, and feel I can't discuss it adequately under your ground rules (which of course you have the perfect right to establish for your blog).  Therefore I reply on mine, in the the post titled "War: The Dutch Are Not Clear on the Concept" http://fatsteve.blogspot.com/2004/11/war-dutch-are-not-clear-on-concept.html


      In any case, sincere best wishes to your country in combating the thugs.  And let me compliment you on your command of English.

Stephen M. St. Onge (ip:63.229.223.131) 5 November 2004 - 7:19 uur


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